CBS public comment zone at end of article portrays a storm brewing toward the 2% corporate greedy guts spreading freedumbland, a world of war, hunger, social divisions, environmental destruction, everywhere. As common sense in science is lost with the continued stagnation of our energy base and deep troubling theoretical foundational issues in physics, so too, Civilization's Survival Parameters fly out of sight, out of mind, along with the values and morals inherent within these expanded/holistic/scientific/sustainable/survival parameters which new energy systems would reveal.
German G-8 Summit Protests Turn Violent
ROSTOCK, Germany, June 2, 2007
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CBS/AP) Protesters with black hoods and bandanas covering their faces showered police with rocks and beer bottles Saturday, before the heavily armored officers drove them back with water cannon and tear gas during a rally against an upcoming Group of Eight summit. Black smoke from burning cars mingled with the sting of tear gas in the harbor-front area of the northern German town of Rostock, where tens of thousands of people had gathered peacefully at the start of the day. The clashes broke out among hundreds of stone-throwing demonstrators and police on the edges of the crowd as the rally progressed. Some 146 police were 
hurt, 25 of them seriously. Police said they made 17 arrests. It was an unruly start to what is expected to be a week of rallies against the three-day G-8 summit beginning Wednesday in the fenced-off coastal resort of Heiligendamm, 14 miles from Rostock. German Chancellor Angela Merkel will host the leaders of Britain, France, Japan, Italy, Russia, Canada and the U.S. for discussions on global warming, aid to Africa and the global economy. The summit, like past ones, is attracting protesters opposed to capitalism, globalization, the war in Iraq and the G-8 itself. Police have surrounded the summit site with a seven-mile-long fence topped with barbed wire, and closed the surrounding waters and airspace, fearing terrorism or disorderly protests like the ones that marred at 2001 summit in Genoa, Italy, where police and protesters clashed for days and one demonstrator was killed. Protests near the fence have been banned. In Rostock, the officially permitted demonstration began peacefully Saturday with two groups of marchers gathering at the waterfront. Clashes broke out near the end of the scheduled four-hour rally, as some people pried up paving stones and broke them into smaller pieces. Eventually, five large green police trucks with twin water cannons mounted on top moved in to blast the rioters. A police car was destroyed and several parked cars burned, spreading black smoke over the area. Protesters also torched a large blue recycling bin. Police spokesman Frank Scheulen estimated the number of violence-minded demonstrators at about 2,000. Police put the size of the demonstration at 25,000, while organizers said it was 80,000. Werner Raetz, an anti-globalization activist with Attac, one of the organizing groups, distanced himself from the violence: “There is no justification for these attacks.” As for the demonstrations planned over the next few days, Raetz said both sides should try to get the “emotional situation” under control. There are several camps in the area for protesters, and marches and other events are planned. Some protesters say they intend to try to block roads leading to the summit site. Peter Mueller, who was among the demonstrators, had tears streaming from bloodshot eyes after the tear gas was released. “As long as the police were in the background it was OK, but as soon as one took a step closer, it went out of control,” he said. He shrugged. “What can you do? So ends the peaceful protest.” The protest was organized by several dozen groups under the motto “another world is possible.” “The world shaped by the dominance of the G-8 is a world of war, hunger, social divisions, environmental destruction and barriers against migrants and refugees,” organizers said in leaflets handed out on the streets. "For the member nations of the G8 summit, there are so many controversial issues — including the delay in getting agreement on climate change, the war in Iraq and global terror — that the demonstrations against the meeting are a 'perfect storm' of different intersecting protest groups," said CBS News Foreign Affairs Analyst Pamela Falk. "For an organization that relies on consensus, the Germany summit is already complicated because of serious tension this year between the U.S. and Russia on arms development, and differences among the eight nations on how to deal with Iraq and Iran." "President Bush's climate change proposal, going into the summit, is being seen as both good news — an acknowledgment that his administration recognizes the problem — and bad news for getting something done on the already-existing Kyoto Protocol," Falk added. On their Web site, organizers emphasized that they wanted a peaceful protest. “There is no reason to be afraid to come to the big demonstration in Rostock,” they said. “We do not expect major problems with the police.” Anti-globalization protests have plagued similar summits in recent years, especially meetings of the World Trade Organization. In 1999, 50,000 protesters shut down WTO sessions in Seattle as police fired tear gas and rubber bullets. There were some 600 arrests and $3 million in property damage. At subsequent WTO meetings in Cancun, Mexico, and Hong Kong, smaller protests also disrupted meetings.
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alphaa10,Re: "Globalism is not an economic theory but a hard-fought, incremental political process now well underway, thanks to a pliant group of G8 and other governments. These governments, whose principal membership is heavily involved in oversight/enabling bodies for multinationals, pave the way for corporations to do as they please with the rest of the world-- especially in developing nations." Dead on.###It sounds like the demonstrators are defending themselves fairly well. In reaction to the pig riot attack against these demonstrators, nearly 150 officers have already been wounded, and the conference hasn't even started yet. There are already as many as 80,000 demonstrators there.I think they have a very good chance of shutting this Corporate pirate conference down, just like we have seen in the past.www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,21841159-663,00.htmlI wonder if the pigs will kill anyone this time around, as they did in Genoa, in 2001?Best of luck to the demonstrators, and thank you!Be safe!
Posted by FeelFree1 at 01:16 AM : Jun 03, 2007+ report abuse
This truly shows how tired people are of being constantly stepped upon. The rioters here are rioting for us, they are doing this to show the world how the middle and lower class are constantly oppressed and stepped on by the upper class. Constantly being kept down by people who have alot of money, constantly being oppressed by the corrupt upper class. This is our world too people, wake up and attend these violent protests. I applaud loud.
Posted by ndjam at 01:10 AM : Jun 03, 2007+ report abuse
The supposed panacea of globalism is Dr. Pangloss hard at work, depicting multinational corporate capitalism as the best of all possible worlds. In truth, however, globalism is a battle to make the world safe for multinational factory owners. Globalism is not an economic theory but a hard-fought, incremental political process now well underway, thanks to a pliant group of G8 and other governments. These governments, whose principal membership is heavily involved in oversight/enabling bodies for multinationals, pave the way for corporations to do as they please with the rest of the world-- especially in developing nations. An excellent critique of globalist doctrine is "Global Trade and Conflicting National Interests", by Ralph Gomory and William Baumol. Gomory, president of the Alfred P. Sloan Foundation, and a former IBM senior VP, helped make IBM a global presence. Baumol is former president of the American Economic Association. The authors are uniquely positioned to describe a process more threatening to our quality of life than global terror, itself.
Posted by alphaa10 at 12:14 AM : Jun 03, 2007+ report abuse
hopnotoad72 croaked, "Finally, anyone who claims "America's attempt at world domination for oil!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" is a naive fool. There's more than meets the eye."---Yes, of course, there is always more than meets the eye-- as your comment, itself, demonstrates. Your denials become more interesting as they become more vehement. Clearly, having 35 percent of the world's proven oil reserves, not to mention fields yet to be "fathomed", is sufficient objective to draw many naive fools. But for Bush and Cheney, at least, the combination of a seemingly inexhaustible oil reserve and a secure American force-projection base (ten superbases, to be exact) to protect it ranks as an irresistible bauble for neocons bent on making a "new American century". What the builders of these superbases had not anticipated (of course) was their Iraqi "cakewalk" might fail, and the natives might become restless, instead of pliantly democratic.
Posted by alphaa10 at 11:40 PM : Jun 02, 2007+ report abuse
emhawks,Re: "FeelFree1: Agree completely with your posts!"Thank you, and thank you for the supplemental information.
Posted by FeelFree1 at 09:18 PM : Jun 02, 2007+ report abuse
Posted by emhawks emhawks, thanks for the information. Its a pity we have to find out about if from the comments part of a supposed news service. While this is being ignored CBS is posting stories about an American Idol finalist debuting her first album. The dumbing down of America continues.
ROSTOCK, Germany, June 2, 2007
(
CBS/AP) Protesters with black hoods and bandanas covering their faces showered police with rocks and beer bottles Saturday, before the heavily armored officers drove them back with water cannon and tear gas during a rally against an upcoming Group of Eight summit. Black smoke from burning cars mingled with the sting of tear gas in the harbor-front area of the northern German town of Rostock, where tens of thousands of people had gathered peacefully at the start of the day. The clashes broke out among hundreds of stone-throwing demonstrators and police on the edges of the crowd as the rally progressed. Some 146 police were hurt, 25 of them seriously. Police said they made 17 arrests. It was an unruly start to what is expected to be a week of rallies against the three-day G-8 summit beginning Wednesday in the fenced-off coastal resort of Heiligendamm, 14 miles from Rostock. German Chancellor Angela Merkel will host the leaders of Britain, France, Japan, Italy, Russia, Canada and the U.S. for discussions on global warming, aid to Africa and the global economy. The summit, like past ones, is attracting protesters opposed to capitalism, globalization, the war in Iraq and the G-8 itself. Police have surrounded the summit site with a seven-mile-long fence topped with barbed wire, and closed the surrounding waters and airspace, fearing terrorism or disorderly protests like the ones that marred at 2001 summit in Genoa, Italy, where police and protesters clashed for days and one demonstrator was killed. Protests near the fence have been banned. In Rostock, the officially permitted demonstration began peacefully Saturday with two groups of marchers gathering at the waterfront. Clashes broke out near the end of the scheduled four-hour rally, as some people pried up paving stones and broke them into smaller pieces. Eventually, five large green police trucks with twin water cannons mounted on top moved in to blast the rioters. A police car was destroyed and several parked cars burned, spreading black smoke over the area. Protesters also torched a large blue recycling bin. Police spokesman Frank Scheulen estimated the number of violence-minded demonstrators at about 2,000. Police put the size of the demonstration at 25,000, while organizers said it was 80,000. Werner Raetz, an anti-globalization activist with Attac, one of the organizing groups, distanced himself from the violence: “There is no justification for these attacks.” As for the demonstrations planned over the next few days, Raetz said both sides should try to get the “emotional situation” under control. There are several camps in the area for protesters, and marches and other events are planned. Some protesters say they intend to try to block roads leading to the summit site. Peter Mueller, who was among the demonstrators, had tears streaming from bloodshot eyes after the tear gas was released. “As long as the police were in the background it was OK, but as soon as one took a step closer, it went out of control,” he said. He shrugged. “What can you do? So ends the peaceful protest.” The protest was organized by several dozen groups under the motto “another world is possible.” “The world shaped by the dominance of the G-8 is a world of war, hunger, social divisions, environmental destruction and barriers against migrants and refugees,” organizers said in leaflets handed out on the streets. "For the member nations of the G8 summit, there are so many controversial issues — including the delay in getting agreement on climate change, the war in Iraq and global terror — that the demonstrations against the meeting are a 'perfect storm' of different intersecting protest groups," said CBS News Foreign Affairs Analyst Pamela Falk. "For an organization that relies on consensus, the Germany summit is already complicated because of serious tension this year between the U.S. and Russia on arms development, and differences among the eight nations on how to deal with Iraq and Iran." "President Bush's climate change proposal, going into the summit, is being seen as both good news — an acknowledgment that his administration recognizes the problem — and bad news for getting something done on the already-existing Kyoto Protocol," Falk added. On their Web site, organizers emphasized that they wanted a peaceful protest. “There is no reason to be afraid to come to the big demonstration in Rostock,” they said. “We do not expect major problems with the police.” Anti-globalization protests have plagued similar summits in recent years, especially meetings of the World Trade Organization. In 1999, 50,000 protesters shut down WTO sessions in Seattle as police fired tear gas and rubber bullets. There were some 600 arrests and $3 million in property damage. At subsequent WTO meetings in Cancun, Mexico, and Hong Kong, smaller protests also disrupted meetings.Now you're in the public comment zone. What follows is not CBS News stuff; it comes from other people and we don't vouch for it. A reminder: By using this Web site you agree to accept our Terms of Service. Click here to read the Rules of Engagement.
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alphaa10,Re: "Globalism is not an economic theory but a hard-fought, incremental political process now well underway, thanks to a pliant group of G8 and other governments. These governments, whose principal membership is heavily involved in oversight/enabling bodies for multinationals, pave the way for corporations to do as they please with the rest of the world-- especially in developing nations." Dead on.###It sounds like the demonstrators are defending themselves fairly well. In reaction to the pig riot attack against these demonstrators, nearly 150 officers have already been wounded, and the conference hasn't even started yet. There are already as many as 80,000 demonstrators there.I think they have a very good chance of shutting this Corporate pirate conference down, just like we have seen in the past.www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,21841159-663,00.htmlI wonder if the pigs will kill anyone this time around, as they did in Genoa, in 2001?Best of luck to the demonstrators, and thank you!Be safe!
Posted by FeelFree1 at 01:16 AM : Jun 03, 2007+ report abuse
This truly shows how tired people are of being constantly stepped upon. The rioters here are rioting for us, they are doing this to show the world how the middle and lower class are constantly oppressed and stepped on by the upper class. Constantly being kept down by people who have alot of money, constantly being oppressed by the corrupt upper class. This is our world too people, wake up and attend these violent protests. I applaud loud.
Posted by ndjam at 01:10 AM : Jun 03, 2007+ report abuse
The supposed panacea of globalism is Dr. Pangloss hard at work, depicting multinational corporate capitalism as the best of all possible worlds. In truth, however, globalism is a battle to make the world safe for multinational factory owners. Globalism is not an economic theory but a hard-fought, incremental political process now well underway, thanks to a pliant group of G8 and other governments. These governments, whose principal membership is heavily involved in oversight/enabling bodies for multinationals, pave the way for corporations to do as they please with the rest of the world-- especially in developing nations. An excellent critique of globalist doctrine is "Global Trade and Conflicting National Interests", by Ralph Gomory and William Baumol. Gomory, president of the Alfred P. Sloan Foundation, and a former IBM senior VP, helped make IBM a global presence. Baumol is former president of the American Economic Association. The authors are uniquely positioned to describe a process more threatening to our quality of life than global terror, itself.
Posted by alphaa10 at 12:14 AM : Jun 03, 2007+ report abuse
hopnotoad72 croaked, "Finally, anyone who claims "America's attempt at world domination for oil!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" is a naive fool. There's more than meets the eye."---Yes, of course, there is always more than meets the eye-- as your comment, itself, demonstrates. Your denials become more interesting as they become more vehement. Clearly, having 35 percent of the world's proven oil reserves, not to mention fields yet to be "fathomed", is sufficient objective to draw many naive fools. But for Bush and Cheney, at least, the combination of a seemingly inexhaustible oil reserve and a secure American force-projection base (ten superbases, to be exact) to protect it ranks as an irresistible bauble for neocons bent on making a "new American century". What the builders of these superbases had not anticipated (of course) was their Iraqi "cakewalk" might fail, and the natives might become restless, instead of pliantly democratic.
Posted by alphaa10 at 11:40 PM : Jun 02, 2007+ report abuse
emhawks,Re: "FeelFree1: Agree completely with your posts!"Thank you, and thank you for the supplemental information.
Posted by FeelFree1 at 09:18 PM : Jun 02, 2007+ report abuse
Posted by emhawks emhawks, thanks for the information. Its a pity we have to find out about if from the comments part of a supposed news service. While this is being ignored CBS is posting stories about an American Idol finalist debuting her first album. The dumbing down of America continues.
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